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Q&A Why was this answer to the volunteer-discussion removed?

Update: The answer has been edited and undeleted. The last paragraph - the one calling for staff to step down if they cannot make Codidact their top priority - has been removed, since that constitu...

posted 3y ago by Mithical‭  ·  edited 3y ago by Mithical‭

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#3: Post edited by user avatar Mithical‭ · 2020-10-01T15:59:47Z (over 3 years ago)
  • It was deleted for being disrespectful and inciting drama.
  • The post attacks the (volunteer) staff members putting time, effort, and money into running these sites, dismissing their efforts because of a perception that the site should take precedence over living a real life. The post states that that should step down as staff members if they cannot make Codidact their top priority, which constitutes a personal attack against, well, the entire team, since pretty much the entire Codidact team has stated that they have other priorities aside from CD.
  • That personal attack was quite disrespectful, and rather rude, especially coupled with the request contained within that answer to be appointed CEO of Codidact. (Which, by the way, doesn't exist; Codidact does not and *will* not have a CEO position as far as I am aware.)
  • It's also sparking drama, as seen by the comments on the post.
  • I deleted it for those reasons, in discussion with other members of the team.
  • There's a bug that currently allows the OP to undelete their own posts if it's moderator-deleted; that's an oversight and will be fixed ASAP. That's why it kept getting undeleted and redeleted.
  • I'd also like to quote from the [moderator help](https://meta.codidact.com/help/warnings) (available [on GH](https://github.com/codidact/docs/blob/master/User-Help/Moderator-Help/SuspensionGuidance.md) as well):
  • > **Breaking the *spirit* of the law is also a problem**. If you have a user who's continuously causing problems within your community, *that's a problem*, even if they're not technically breaking the letter of the law.
  • It was deleted with that in mind; even if it's not technically breaking the letter of any current rules, the fact that it's causing problems and drama is an issue in of itself.
  • **Update**: The answer has been edited and undeleted.
  • The last paragraph - the one calling for staff to step down if they cannot make Codidact their top priority - has been removed, since that constitutes a personal attack against the volunteer Codidact staff. It's also been edited to make it clearer that the person writing the answer is the same person who wrote the original question.
  • In its edited state, since it no longer contains personal attacks, the post no longer qualifies for deletion and so has been restored.
  • ---------
  • It was deleted for being disrespectful and inciting drama.
  • The post attacks the (volunteer) staff members putting time, effort, and money into running these sites, dismissing their efforts because of a perception that the site should take precedence over living a real life. The post states that that should step down as staff members if they cannot make Codidact their top priority, which constitutes a personal attack against, well, the entire team, since pretty much the entire Codidact team has stated that they have other priorities aside from CD.
  • That personal attack was quite disrespectful, and rather rude, especially coupled with the request contained within that answer to be appointed CEO of Codidact. (Which, by the way, doesn't exist; Codidact does not and *will* not have a CEO position as far as I am aware.)
  • It's also sparking drama, as seen by the comments on the post.
  • I deleted it for those reasons, in discussion with other members of the team.
  • There's a bug that currently allows the OP to undelete their own posts if it's moderator-deleted; that's an oversight and will be fixed ASAP. That's why it kept getting undeleted and redeleted.
  • I'd also like to quote from the [moderator help](https://meta.codidact.com/help/warnings) (available [on GH](https://github.com/codidact/docs/blob/master/User-Help/Moderator-Help/SuspensionGuidance.md) as well):
  • > **Breaking the *spirit* of the law is also a problem**. If you have a user who's continuously causing problems within your community, *that's a problem*, even if they're not technically breaking the letter of the law.
  • It was deleted with that in mind; even if it's not technically breaking the letter of any current rules, the fact that it's causing problems and drama is an issue in of itself.
#2: Post edited by user avatar Mithical‭ · 2020-10-01T15:51:09Z (over 3 years ago)
  • It was deleted for being disrespectful and inciting drama.
  • The post attacks the (volunteer) staff members putting time, effort, and money into running these sites, dismissing their efforts because of a perception that the site should take precedence over living a real life.
  • I find that extremely disrespectful, and rather rude, especially with the request contained within that answer to be appointed CEO of Codidact. (Which, by the way, doesn't exist; Codidact does not and *will* not have a CEO position as far as I am aware.)
  • It's also sparking drama, as seen by the comments on the post.
  • I deleted it for those reasons, in discussion with other members of the team.
  • There's a bug that currently allows the OP to undelete their own posts if it's moderator-deleted; that's an oversight and will be fixed ASAP. That's why it kept getting undeleted and redeleted.
  • I'd also like to quote from the [moderator help](https://meta.codidact.com/help/warnings) (available [on GH](https://github.com/codidact/docs/blob/master/User-Help/Moderator-Help/SuspensionGuidance.md) as well):
  • > **Breaking the *spirit* of the law is also a problem**. If you have a user who's continuously causing problems within your community, *that's a problem*, even if they're not technically breaking the letter of the law.
  • It was deleted with that in mind; even if it's not technically breaking the letter of any current rules, the fact that it's causing problems and drama is an issue in of itself.
  • It was deleted for being disrespectful and inciting drama.
  • The post attacks the (volunteer) staff members putting time, effort, and money into running these sites, dismissing their efforts because of a perception that the site should take precedence over living a real life. The post states that that should step down as staff members if they cannot make Codidact their top priority, which constitutes a personal attack against, well, the entire team, since pretty much the entire Codidact team has stated that they have other priorities aside from CD.
  • That personal attack was quite disrespectful, and rather rude, especially coupled with the request contained within that answer to be appointed CEO of Codidact. (Which, by the way, doesn't exist; Codidact does not and *will* not have a CEO position as far as I am aware.)
  • It's also sparking drama, as seen by the comments on the post.
  • I deleted it for those reasons, in discussion with other members of the team.
  • There's a bug that currently allows the OP to undelete their own posts if it's moderator-deleted; that's an oversight and will be fixed ASAP. That's why it kept getting undeleted and redeleted.
  • I'd also like to quote from the [moderator help](https://meta.codidact.com/help/warnings) (available [on GH](https://github.com/codidact/docs/blob/master/User-Help/Moderator-Help/SuspensionGuidance.md) as well):
  • > **Breaking the *spirit* of the law is also a problem**. If you have a user who's continuously causing problems within your community, *that's a problem*, even if they're not technically breaking the letter of the law.
  • It was deleted with that in mind; even if it's not technically breaking the letter of any current rules, the fact that it's causing problems and drama is an issue in of itself.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Mithical‭ · 2020-10-01T11:40:00Z (over 3 years ago)
It was deleted for being disrespectful and inciting drama.

The post attacks the (volunteer) staff members putting time, effort, and money into running these sites, dismissing their efforts because of a perception that the site should take precedence over living a real life.

I find that extremely disrespectful, and rather rude, especially with the request contained within that answer to be appointed CEO of Codidact. (Which, by the way, doesn't exist; Codidact does not and *will* not have a CEO position as far as I am aware.)

It's also sparking drama, as seen by the comments on the post.

I deleted it for those reasons, in discussion with other members of the team.

There's a bug that currently allows the OP to undelete their own posts if it's moderator-deleted; that's an oversight and will be fixed ASAP. That's why it kept getting undeleted and redeleted.

I'd also like to quote from the [moderator help](https://meta.codidact.com/help/warnings) (available [on GH](https://github.com/codidact/docs/blob/master/User-Help/Moderator-Help/SuspensionGuidance.md) as well):

> **Breaking the *spirit* of the law is also a problem**. If you have a user who's continuously causing problems within your community, *that's a problem*, even if they're not technically breaking the letter of the law.

It was deleted with that in mind; even if it's not technically breaking the letter of any current rules, the fact that it's causing problems and drama is an issue in of itself.