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Q&A Proposal to ease tag maintenance

We should make it easier for trusted users to manage tags. Can we please have some feedback on the following ideas? Creating tags directly (independently of a post): move from mod-only to anyo...

2 answers  ·  posted 1y ago by Monica Cellio‭  ·  last activity 1y ago by trichoplax‭

#2: Post edited by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2023-08-13T22:04:55Z (about 1 year ago)
  • We should make it easier for trusted users to manage tags. Can we please have some feedback on the following ideas?
  • - Creating tags: move from mod-only to anyone with the Edit Tags ability.
  • - Renaming tags: move from mod-only to anyone with the Edit Tags ability. Is that too dangerous (because it could cause confusion if people aren't coordinating)? On the other hand, an incorrectly-renamed tag can be renamed back to what it was; it's not a destructive operation.
  • - Deleting *unused* tags: move from admin-only to mod-only.
  • I'm not proposing that we change deleting *in-use* tags (admin-only) right now, because that's a more destructive operation that probably needs some safeguards. Even people who have the ability generally don't use it. This is an area for further work.
  • I'm also not proposing that we change *merging* tags (mod-only) right now. This is a destructive operation.
  • But meanwhile, does lowering these other thresholds create risks that we need to address?
  • Note: I am aware that the Edit Tags ability can't currently be earned organically -- this is a long-known problem that we haven't fixed yet. However, moderators can grant abilities directly, so people can still have the Edit Tags ability, so we can meaningfully base feature access on it.
  • We should make it easier for trusted users to manage tags. Can we please have some feedback on the following ideas?
  • - Creating tags directly (independently of a post): move from mod-only to anyone with the Edit Tags ability.[^1]
  • - Renaming tags: move from mod-only to anyone with the Edit Tags ability. Is that too dangerous (because it could cause confusion if people aren't coordinating)? On the other hand, an incorrectly-renamed tag can be renamed back to what it was; it's not a destructive operation.
  • - Deleting *unused* tags: move from admin-only to mod-only.
  • I'm not proposing that we change deleting *in-use* tags (admin-only) right now, because that's a more destructive operation that probably needs some safeguards. Even people who have the ability generally don't use it. This is an area for further work.
  • I'm also not proposing that we change *merging* tags (mod-only) right now. This is a destructive operation.
  • But meanwhile, does lowering these other thresholds create risks that we need to address?
  • Note: I am aware that the Edit Tags ability can't currently be earned organically -- this is a long-known problem that we haven't fixed yet. However, moderators can grant abilities directly, so people can still have the Edit Tags ability, so we can meaningfully base feature access on it.
  • [^1]: Anybody (with Participate Everywhere, I think) can create a new tag by adding it to a post. Moderators also have a "new" button on the tags page, allowing them to create a tag without adding it to a post. Why would you do that, you might ask? This is helpful when building out tag hierarchies or preparing a set of related tags that you want to make sure follow the same naming convention.
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Monica Cellio‭ · 2023-08-13T19:12:24Z (about 1 year ago)
Proposal to ease tag maintenance
We should make it easier for trusted users to manage tags. Can we please have some feedback on the following ideas?

- Creating tags: move from mod-only to anyone with the Edit Tags ability.

- Renaming tags: move from mod-only to anyone with the Edit Tags ability.  Is that too dangerous (because it could cause confusion if people aren't coordinating)?  On the other hand, an incorrectly-renamed tag can be renamed back to what it was; it's not a destructive operation.

- Deleting *unused* tags: move from admin-only to mod-only.

I'm not proposing that we change deleting *in-use* tags (admin-only) right now, because that's a more destructive operation that probably needs some safeguards.  Even people who have the ability generally don't use it.  This is an area for further work.

I'm also not proposing that we change *merging* tags (mod-only) right now.  This is a destructive operation.

But meanwhile, does lowering these other thresholds create risks that we need to address?

Note: I am aware that the Edit Tags ability can't currently be earned organically -- this is a long-known problem that we haven't fixed yet.  However, moderators can grant abilities directly, so people can still have the Edit Tags ability, so we can meaningfully base feature access on it.