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Optional frames, borders or shadow around images

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Sometimes, images found in posts blend with the background. That can certainly look better than an image that stands out from the surrounding page, but every now and then, standing out is just what is needed. This can often be the case with screenshots of Codidact itself, where it's confusing when looking at a post with such a screenshot in it, and it blends with the rest. Having a frame, border or shadow around these images, can provide necessary clarity, and helps set content apart, giving a better overview. My latest post turned out to be rather unpleasant to look at with two screenshots of another Codidact question, so I followed a suggestion to put them in citations, to get a border around them. That's better, but it doesn't look pretty. It's not what citations exist for, so having another way to specify either a border or a shadow behind the image, would be nice. We don't necessarily need two options for either a border or shadow; we can decide on one of them.

I'm not sure what the best way to support this is, so I'm leaving suggestions for that up to answers.

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Images should not be forced to have borders. If you are posting a diagram, for example, then it is already visually dif …

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I prefer no border for general images I would not want every image to be surrounded by a border. Images are added for …

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We've updated the help here on Meta -- where most cases of potential confusion will arise -- to include the tip about us …

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Edit: withdrawn. There are issues with this approach, including the possibility of introducing technical inaccuracies ( …

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We've updated the help here on Meta -- where most cases of potential confusion will arise -- to include the tip about using blockquotes. As noted in other answers, trying to add borders or shadows could introduce problems in some cases, so we're going to leave that in users' hands. As with other formatting or usage tips, we can educate new users with edits.

We're open to some sort of optional control that would add a border, so long as it's off by default (principle of least astonishment), if we can figure out what that should look like.

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Blockquotes are a misuse (5 comments)

Andreas witnessed the end of the world today‭ wrote 10 days ago · edited 10 days ago

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We’re technically misusing a feature. We aren’t quoting an image, or quoting anyone with it (unless it’s for instance a screenshot of text, in which case it should be copied as text into a blockquote instead).

Have the accessibility issues that may arise from this been considered?

Leaving the option in the user’s hand was never something I advocated to abolish; in fact it’s a specific requirement for the feature request. It should be an opt-in feature, and by opt-in, I mean specified in the post body source, or post source metadata. The only real concern I see to decline this, is Trichoplax’s preference to not extend our CommonMark usage with anything, but quite honestly, that likely hinders our development in the future, and isn’t that good of an argument even, precisely because you likely wouldn’t be using the post source without the context of the wider Codidact system.

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I understood the feature request to be for always adding it. If you meant we should have an option, I misunderstood. Currently that option is to use the quoting syntax; are you asking for something more first-tier, like a button in the editor or something like that? We've tried to avoid forking CommonMark, but a UI affordance of some sort that inserts the blockquote for you would make the option more discoverable. Is that what you're asking for?

Andreas witnessed the end of the world today‭ wrote 9 days ago · edited 9 days ago

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I understood the feature request to be for always adding it. If you meant we should have an option, I misunderstood.

Yeah, you misunderstood. The title of my feature request begins with "optional"; that's the key.

Currently that option is to use the quoting syntax; are you asking for something more first-tier, like a button in the editor or something like that?

Yes, the feature request is explicitly asking for something other than using blockquotes. To quote my own post: "It's not what citations exist for, so having another way to specify either a border or a shadow behind the image, would be nice."

a UI affordance of some sort that inserts the blockquote for you would make the option more discoverable. Is that what you're asking for?

From my own post again: "I'm not sure what the best way to support this is, so I'm leaving suggestions for that up to answers." So, the exact implementation or UX isn't specified in the feature request.