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Network-wide sign in created accounts for me on all sites even though I had no accounts there beforehand

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A few day ago, @aCVn proposed that there should be a network-wide sign in to avoid signing in into each sub-site individually. I upvoted the proposal because I like the idea.

As of yesterday (19.06.2020) it's been implemented and rolled out.

Now there is something that wasn't mentioned in the initial proposal or maybe it's hidden between the lines and I didn't catch it.

To try out the new feature, I logged out and logged back in and tried out every site. Suddenly, I have registered accounts on every site even though I specifically didn't sign up for them. For example, I didn't sign up for Electrical Engineering as I neither have any knowledge of this topic nor do I have any questions related to electronics. Of course this could change but then I would have registered on this site.

Is this the intended behaviour?

If it is, I do want to raise a few concerns. If in the future, some site will skyrocket because it evolves around a highly dynamic topic, is very popular or Codidact just happens to be the #1 site for this topic, we will see a surge of new users asking questions and answering them. Now all of the sudden, we also have a lot users on all other sites even though the new users primarily signed up for the popular site.

Of course, there is the possibility that some users like to participate on other sites right from the start and will do so but I think that most users will just stay on their respective start site and sometime later they might enjoy to participate elsewhere or not.

My problem with that is that we now have large user bases everywhere even though participation hasn't changed significantly. New users coming here might see this and think: "Wow, so many users, someone will answer my question very quickly!" In the end, the hoped-for answer takes much more time as the users who participate answer it at their normal rate. Beside this point, some users might ask themselves: "Why do we have so many users and nobody's participating? Just registering and then doing nothing?"

A solution would be to only have a network-wide sign in for the sites one has actually registered beforehand. An alternative is to display a hint that one always registers for the whole network and not just this specific site as this hint is missing on the sign up page right now.

I think that this should be made apparent as it also corners privacy issues. Normally, I expect that when I register an account on any website that I only have an account on this specific website. If this isn't the case, I expect that's explained to me. (For example, Google displays a hint which tells you that you register one account for all their services.)

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It's not the network sign-in that's created accounts for you - it's visiting the sites.

When you visit a site and are signed in elsewhere, an profile is created for you on that site. So, with network sign-in, if you sign in on one site, whenever you visit a site that you haven't been to before, a profile is automatically created.

It would appear you haven't visited Photography yet, as you haven't got a profile there yet: here's the raw data:

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That said, you're quite right that we should do more to explain that this is what's going to happen, so I'll get something added to the sign up form to point that out.

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Zerotime‭ wrote over 4 years ago

Besides displaying a hint, I would also like to see a sentence that explains the core mechanics as you explained them to me (or a link to an article in the help center). It's very different to have accounts set up everywhere with your initial sign up or setting them up yourself by actively visiting a site.

ArtOfCode‭ wrote over 4 years ago

We can do that, @Zerotime

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote over 4 years ago

Seems like we're conflating validation with signing up to a particular site. Validating the user (getting and checking user ID and password) should only be required once across all sites. However, getting on the list of "users" of a site should be a deliberate action, if only once. No need to verify then since that's already been done. You might visit a site to see what it's like, then decide not to "join" because you didn't like it, disagreed, or whatever. That should be each user's choice.

xtal‭ wrote over 4 years ago

@ArtOfCode if simply visiting a site for the first time while signed in will trigger creation of an account there, what about redirecting users onto a page that says "continuing to this site will result in an account being created for you. If you don't want this to happen, sign out before proceeding." Even if it's well explained at initial sign up, people are going to forget eventually, or stumble onto new sites without meaning to, etc.

ArtOfCode‭ wrote over 4 years ago

Potentially there are things we can do, but... I'm not sure what the issue with creating a profile on visit is, @xtal

Monica Cellio‭ wrote over 4 years ago

@ArtOfCode I don't think we should be auto-creating per-site accounts; that should be an intentional action by the user. Adding an answer to elaborate.

Olin Lathrop‭ wrote over 4 years ago

@Art: One issue is that I might not want my name associated with a particular site. It also pollutes the site statistics. As someone managing a site, I can't tell how many "real" users we have.