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Comments on Native sorting button blocks other sorting orders

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Native sorting button blocks other sorting orders

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The sorting buttons at the top of a category's post list include "Activity", "Age", and "Score", which are all orders into which to sort the posts. However, for sites with imported content they also include "Native". This is not a sort order, but a filter, showing only posts that were not imported. This sorts imported content to the end, to give a similar effect to filtering them out, without actually reducing the number of posts displayed.

The sorting buttons above the filters section

In addition to the confusion that can result from putting an apparent filter among the sorting buttons, this also prevents people from using the other sorting buttons with native posts. When "Native" is selected, the sort order is the default order. This cannot be changed to a different sort order without displaying imported content. If "Native" were instead a filter option, then a user who wishes to see only native posts would still be able to sort those posts using the other sorting buttons.

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Now that we have filters, we should remove the native button and add a toggle for native (non-imported) posts to the filter options. As you point out, "native" is not, logically speaking, a sort but a binary property. (Edit: Apparently, as discussed in comments, it is implemented as a sort now, but the effect is just to move the imported posts to the bottom. That seems unhelpful.)

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I was wrong - it is a sort (but probably shouldn't be) (2 comments)
I was wrong - it is a sort (but probably shouldn't be)
trichoplax‭ wrote 9 months ago

A discussion on Discord has made me realise I was wrong about this being a filter - instead of hiding the imported posts it just sorts them to the end, so it is a sort rather than a filter.

I still think it makes more sense as a filter now that we have filters, so it should probably be removed from the sort buttons once the filter exists. I just wanted to correct my mistake. I've also edited the question to reflect this.

Karl Knechtel‭ wrote 9 months ago

It really shouldn't be a sort - that just makes no sense. "Native" for posts is a binary property. First off, you can really only partition by that, not properly sort. Second, someone who chooses this option is probably only interested in native posts - possibly interested only in imported posts, but certainly not both. Whereas when sorting e.g. by date there is no fixed cutoff that would mark what is interesting to the user.