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Comments on Should we start displaying the score of a post instead of the raw votes?

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Should we start displaying the score of a post instead of the raw votes?

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Currently, when viewing a post, Codidact will show you the raw votes on a post, with the breakdown into upvotes and downvotes:

Screenshot of the voting buttons, showing +12 and -1.

There's been some feedback that this is a bit too much to show, especially coming from platforms like Stack Exchange where they generally just show the aggregate score of upvotes and downvotes as one number (with the option to expand the votes to see the split). We decided to show both counts automatically to better show when there's controversy.

However, we now also have another option. We have a method for scoring posts that assigns a score between 0 and 1 to each post.

Perhaps instead of showing the raw votes on each post, we should instead show the post score (e.g. 0.81363... or 0.3793...), rounded to the nearest two or three decimal places (so that it would show as 0.937 or 0.276), with the raw votes available on request, perhaps either on click or in the tools menu.

This would take people a bit of time to get used to, but it might be worth that initial adjustment time, since this... is our scoring system and we want people to be familiar with it quickly.

This has the added benefit of making it much clearer why answers are sorted the way they are by displaying their score (that's currently computed without being displayed) for everyone to see. The raw votes matter less than the computed score.

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instead of - Absolutely not!

Showing separate + and - votes is a good thing. Or as they say, that's not a bug, it's a feature.

If you want to show the score (whether integer net score or Wilson # or whatever) in addition to the + and - values, that's fine with me. But the + and - values are themselves very useful, and anyone who wants a simple net score can easily figure that out.

To answer the "redundant" part, how about always showing the non-zero parts. Examples:

  • +2, -1 - show both (as now)
  • +2, -0 - show: +2 (-0 is implied)
  • +0, -1 - show: -1 (+0 is implied)
  • +0, -0 - show either: 0 (unsigned, single value) or some "No votes yet" indication.

That cuts down on the clutter for the (hopefully common) situation where a post is all + or all -, while keeping things 100% clear when there is a mixture.

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"A simple net score"
Karl Knechtel‭ wrote 11 months ago

Once the numbers get larger, mental arithmetic is not so easy. Of course, one can get a rough idea at a glance. However, I think that the "net score" is not actually that useful, and that it's a trap for people to try to compute it - a trap that is baited by putting the + and - symbols in the UI. Once the quality (as measured by Wilson score) of a post is established, the remaining orthogonal quantity, in my view, is not net vote score, but instead the total number of votes. I wrote a new answer to justify this, and give a new proposal that synthesizes some ideas from other answers.