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Why are comments hidden by default?

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Why are comments deprecated to the point that none are visible without having to move away from the page?

With page loads and mouse clicks, less is MORE.

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Can you clarify "have to move away from the page"? (3 comments)
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It's "status by design". I made the very same remarks when this feature was released, here: https://meta.codidact.com/posts/282342/282346#answer-282346.

Responses from the dev team were:

ArtOfCode‭ wrote 11 months ago:

Part of the intent of this change is to create slightly more friction to commenting. We've seen both here and on SE that comments being easy to leave makes people less likely to think about what they're writing. Opening a new page for a full comment thread is just that little bit of friction that might change that; we'll see how it goes. (There are a few technical challenges to inlining full threads, too, but it can be done if we try this and it really doesn't work out.)

Monica Cellio‭ wrote 11 months ago:

Going to a new page does remove ready access to context (like if you need to consult the post the thread is attached to). It's a link away, but I think that's one issue behind the requests for inlining the thread. Maybe the answer is inlining or maybe the answer is some other change to the thread page.

My feedback was overall positively received (+8 score), yet the feature has remained as it is.

We've been using it for almost a year now and my opinion still stands: loading a new page is cumbersome, unintuitive and confusing. Worst of all, you sometimes (upon following a comment notification) have to view the post and its related comments in separate windows, switching back and forth between two separate tabs - which is plain bad UI. I find no evidence that it makes people think more carefully before posting a comment.

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Don't thread pages have the post with them? (4 comments)
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Monica Cellio‭ wrote almost 2 years ago · edited almost 2 years ago

Somebody started working on inlining all comments but it seems to have stalled and I need to find out why. The idea is that we'll still show just the first five by default, so you don't have to expand a huge thread just to see what it's about, but then there'd be a "show rest" control. The thread page would remain as a convenient thing to link to. (Actually, I now see I suggested that farther down in the comment thread you linked to.)

We did add the post (and, if it's an answer, the question too) behind expanders on the thread page since I left that comment, so the context is better. We're working on the rest.

Lundin‭ wrote almost 2 years ago · edited almost 2 years ago

Monica Cellio‭ I think the current layout would work fine if you could just easily expand/collapse each comment thread and reply there, without opening up a new page.

Monica Cellio‭ wrote almost 2 years ago

That's the idea -- expand a thread in-page including the reply box and the other controls (edit, delete, etc). But make it two-step, so you don't automatically see everything in that 79-comment argument -- see the first 5 and that there are 74 more, and then if you want it, expand and it's all yours.